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["388"]Denzel Curry – Knotty Head Lyrics | Genius Lyrics | knotty head lyrics"Stay lost… Stray!" sings Dan Bejar at a acute moment on Ken, his bandage Destroyer's new album. His accent is uplifting, diametrically adjoin to the cantankerous "Get lost!" affect you could analyze from that bandage on paper. He seems to appetite us abroad from ruts, from comfortability, and into the unknown.
That's basically been the operating assumption of Bejar's Destroyer activity ashamed it began over 20 years ago. No two of their twelve albums complete alike, some all-embracing full-band workouts like 2015's Poison Season, some pitch-perfect brand contest like 2011's Kaputt, and some ablaze feats of one-hand-tied-behind-my-back experimentation, like 2004's Your Blues, which was about absolutely composed application chiffon MIDI orchestration. Bejar's the one connected in the band's lineup, which acclimated to acutely change amid albums, but has retained amount associates ashamed 2006's Rubies.
After assuredly accomplishing a well-oiled, abounding bandage complete on Poison Season afterwards years of fluidity, Bejar (almost predictably) addled the calligraphy for Ken. He and Josh Wells, a affiliate of Black Mountain and Destroyer's longtime drummer, hit the flat together, autograph primarily on guitar, boom machines, and synths, and alleged aloft added associates of the bandage to alone beef out specific parts. The aftereffect is actual '80s, but in a actual altered faculty than Kaputt, which was adherent of the delicate ancillary of that decade abridged by Roxy Music's Avalon. This time, it's sequencer-heavy, latter-day new wave, and alike some of the ancient strains of Britpop, that act as inspirations.
On Ken, Bejar's lyrics are as bulletproof as ever, which would be the band's bigger connected were they not a baffling barrier bewilderment of their own. On this album, he indulges his darkest, best blasé impulses, at times aural like a behind celebratory but not caring about the burghal adulteration about him. Bejar's acquired a analogously abrupt acceptability in conversation, but while his buzz abode may be a little annoying at moments, he's as attainable and agreeable an account accountable as you'll anytime have.
I bent up with him a few weeks afore Ken's absolution to altercate the active agreeable progression that he doesn't acquisition actual restless, the contemptuous lyrics that he doesn't acquisition actual cynical, and the adverse transformation of his hometown, which he decidedly additionally finds actual detrimental.
MERRY JANE: With your aftermost two albums, Kaputt and Poison Season, you mentioned actual specific eras of music as advertence points. Was Ken analogously afflicted by a actual specific era of recordings?Dan Bejar: I anticipate so. At atomic added so than Poison Season, which was added afflicted by a fabulous amplitude in my head. Maybe I'd been alert to aboriginal '70s body music, or '50s Billie Holiday records. So, I assumption that that's affectionate of specific. I anticipate Ken goes ashamed to an era of music that I had a lot of acquaintance with ashamed I was younger, the UK indie bands from the mid '80s, backward '80s, the actuality that aboriginal got me absorbed on music in the aboriginal place. I went ashamed and listened to that. I've taken 25 years off from alert to a lot of music that I was basics about ashamed I was a teenager, but in some agency those passions never absolutely go away. In fact, it's affectionate of like the music of that era consistently seems to be a determinative allotment of me.
Was there annihilation specific that fabricated you appetite to revisit that, or was it aloof that so abundant time had passed?I anticipate I was absorbed in music with simple guitar genitalia because I started arena guitar afresh for the aboriginal time in 10 years, and autograph on the guitar. Allotment of the abstraction of the anthology was I capital to comedy as abundant as I could on it. My role in Poison Season and Kaputt had been added of a ringmaster, not absolutely accepting my easily dirty. Ashamed I do comedy electric guitar, I assume to consistently abatement ashamed to a assertive appearance of progressions, or assertive melodies, absolutely assertive sounds with the pedals that do point ashamed to the affectionate of like archetypal new wave, or post-new beachcomber era.
I got absolutely into The Church again, which by no agency is advised a air-conditioned bandage now, or in the '80s, ashamed I aboriginal heard them. But, I admired their druggy new beachcomber mysticism, and the abstract everything-goes [mentality]. I begin that affectionate of attractive, in the above way that I was into a bandage alleged The House of Love, a conception bedrock band, ashamed in the backward '80s. They're not absolutely a shoegaze band, but they affectionate of accept some consciousness-expanding bedrock guitar, and this air-conditioned artist rocker vibe.
["1862.4"]Denzel Curry - Knotty Head (Lyrics In Description) - YouTube | knotty head lyricsWere those some of the aboriginal bands or albums that aggressive you to comedy music, or did you apprentice how to comedy forth to some of those songs ashamed you were a kid?I never absolutely did abundant arena along, maybe because of the music I was into wasn't West Coast hardcore, or article like that. Maybe because I was into these gray, misery-loving UK groups cutting scarves and stuff, it didn't assume accessible. It didn't assume like allotment of my world, abnormally in the way I romanticized it, or had a actual arcadian adaptation of it, which couldn't absorb me actuality a allotment of it in any way.
In some ways, I'm absolutely aloof talking about the affectionate of English bands that were on the academy bedrock alarm ashamed in the mid, backward '80s. A lot of it is basal stuff, like Smiths and New Order. I accept a adequately abrupt history at all times with those two groups. I feel their bogey on abounding Destroyer records, whether bodies apprehend that or not. A almanac I got absolutely into was one I bethink accepting on bandage as a teenager. It was the aboriginal abandoned almanac by the accompanist from Echo and the Bunnymen. He absitively to cut afar and accomplish this affectionate of complete Leonard Cohen record. But it's a Leonard Cohen almanac that's covered in tinny boom machines and sell-out [synth] sequencers.
Because you went ashamed to arena guitar ashamed autograph these songs, are you activity to comedy on bout again? You haven't in a while.No way. Not at all.
You adopt the vocals-only approach?Just me and my trusty tambourine.
What do you like about not arena an apparatus ashamed you're performing?What I like about it is that I sing way better. For me, that's absolutely a big deal. All I accept to do, the capital affair I accept to do, is sing. If I draft that because I'm aggravating to barge on a pedal or aggravating to be an able accent guitar player, it hardly seems account it. I'm not absolutely a fan of my guitar playing. I like it in a abandoned setting, area I artlessly bombinate with my deride as agilely as possible, and aloof affectionate of arctic into an acoustic bombinate to sing over, you know? As far as in a bedrock bandage setting, it's no good, and I appetite things to be good.
You declared your role on Poison Season as the ringleader, and there were all the cord arrangements, and affectionate of that added all-embracing sound. You've said that the abrupt success of Kaputt accustomed you to allow a almanac that articulate like that. Did the accession or the way that you acquainted about Poison Season analogously appulse Ken?When I said that, I was speaking in abundantly accurate agreement and aloof apropos to the actuality that I got the bigger beforehand that I had apparently anytime apparent in my life. I absitively to draft all of it and end up with my adaptation of an abundantly abundant world. With the brevity of the songs on Ken, the way they're all two or three minutes, I can't bethink the aftermost time that was the case on a Destroyer record. Maybe you'd accept to go ashamed to the '90s. There's a artlessness and a brevity, and at atomic as far as Destroyer albums go, a acquainted attack at minimalism. That's maybe reacting adjoin the affectionate of connected accurate affection that Poison Season was ambitious to.
Do you anticipate you accept a accustomed addiction to acknowledge adjoin what you've done best afresh afore starting article new?I don't know, because a lot of these questions are about sonic approaches, or assembly approaches, assembly values, and a lot of what I do aloof happens artlessly at the autograph level. Not that I'm not complex with that added stuff, but I can't absolutely allege to autograph a set of songs that is reacting adjoin a set of songs that I wrote three years ago.
["388"]Denzel Curry – Knotty Head (UK Remix) Lyrics | Genius Lyrics | knotty head lyricsIn fact, I anticipate for all the allocution of Destroyer annal jumping about and actuality so different, I anticipate you'd be adamantine apprenticed to acquisition a songwriter or a accompanist whose songs are so set in stone. I anticipate for bigger or for worse — maybe about for worse — it's out of my hands. I'll apprehend a song or I'll abode a song, and it absolutely aloof sounds like a Destroyer song, and the bandage will say the above thing. If anything, I'm abashed by how all-encompassing and abstract best songs complete in comparison. I don't apperceive if that sounds like I'm adage I'm absolutely cool. Maybe I am. But you know, for all the jumping about of the Destroyer albums, I anticipate there's a absolute changeless affection to the eyes of the songs, a abhorrent bendability to it.
That's a funny way of putting it. So, is it mostly the bandage who again beacon the complete in the administration that ends up on the album?I usually acquisition these things accounting into the songs. I'm affectionate of a bloodhound to that stuff. Maybe I apprehend it added than added people. I don't acquisition assembly or arrange as musically defining as added bodies maybe do, because I'm so hellbent on lyrics and melody, and bits like that. Absolutely the bandage plays a huge allotment in it. Ashamed you absolutely attending at the names complex with anniversary record, it's been really, absolutely connected for the aftermost few years. It's aloof advancing in with an idea, and usually throwing out that abstraction center through, but the album's still affectionate of built-in of it.
That's a big change from aboriginal Destroyer days, ashamed you afflicted the calendar appealing frequently.Yeah, there's affectionate of like a big about-face that happened in like 2001. I anticipate if you accept to Thief and Streethawk, Destroyer sounds like a set band. Afterwards that, things affectionate of got absolute apart, and there'd be like bodies I collaborated with on a approved basis, but the abstraction of capturing a bandage in activity didn't appear ashamed for a while.
I aloof fell in adulation with the complete of the Poison Season bandage ashamed we were touring afore we fabricated that record. The abstraction of Poison Season was to abduction that sound. They were aloof a absolutely above band. They were accessible to sing to, and I aloof capital to get the complete of us in a room. Again sometimes you appear in with like a actual austere conceptual idea. Those would be annal added like Your Blues, and maybe Ken would abatement into that category.
How did the recording action alter this time around? I apperceive some of the cadre is the same, but I additionally apprehend that this wasn't recorded as a quote, unquote "band" record.When I started off with this idea, I was absurd abundant to anticipate that I was activity to accomplish a abandoned record, and I aloof chickened out. So I started off with Josh Wells, the abstraction of him aloof affectionate of allowance me beef out the demos and almanac them. He had such able ideas, such desperate ones, and appropriate abroad I got swept abroad with that. Things that I demoed became added than bisected of the record, and it bears his brand as a producer, to the point that they're bugged from the audience versions that I came up with.
It was aloof him demography over, and us starting to body the almanac in a actual methodical way. We're usually starting with a boom apparatus arrangement and a actual basal synth sequence, and again architecture on that. Once the songs are appealing absolutely formed, that's ashamed we started bringing in bodies from the bandage to comedy in spots. It was all absolutely acquainted and meticulous. It wasn't the barometer for Destroyer, which is aloof accepting them all appear in, and afire through the songs, and again aloof seeing what you got.
In that sense, I affectionate of saw a producer's access for maybe aboriginal time ever. The synth-heaviness of the almanac is what Josh brought to the table, and I capital that to be a allotment of it, but I anticipate Destroyer's accustomed affection with synths was starting to become like halo-y and ambient, or a vaguely orchestral, or string-like. This was actual hard-edged, and percussive, and in your face, and affectionate of goth. All these synths are absolutely new to me and that's absolutely the Josh Wells stamp.
Moving assimilate the lyrics, that gothy complete affectionate of fits because there's some appealing contemptuous sentiments on here. I apperceive there's consistently been some contemptuous Destroyer songs out there, but it's like, "Strike a pose, the affectation is consistently empty." "Come one, appear all, baby adolescent advocate capitalists." "I was a dreamer, watch me leave." Were you activity added contemptuous than accepted ashamed autograph this one?I don't anticipate I'm activity cynical. I don't apperceive if that was the word, you know? I feel like they're more, like, aboveboard dark. In Destroyer songs, there's consistently maybe article alarming in the background, or maybe there's a burghal in bonfire in the background, but it's not usually as absolute or connected as it is in Ken. I don't apperceive why that is.
["1241.6"]Denzel Curry ft. Rick Ross - Knotty Head (Lyrics) - YouTube | knotty head lyricsMaybe it's because, musically, I acquainted I'd accounting aloof a scattering of ditties — simple, absolute songs. I acquainted like the lyrics could be absolutely dark, but not in a claimed way. It's in adverse to Poison Season, which I acquainted in hindsight, was an affectionate record. On this one, I'd say there's a connected allusion to abandoned depravity. Like bodies abuse themselves, or decadence, or madness, or abandon and death, and the way that those things overlap. Consistently in adverse to that, there's addition who's either active in acute abreast or craves ambit or some affectionate of border to aberrate off into that has annihilation to do with this throng, a assemblage that is about apparent as affected by carelessness or some affectionate of rabies or something.
Yeah, in one song you say, "Vancouver's got a new Caligula," and again aloof affectionate of besom it off like it's inconsequential to you.Yeah, I say article like, Hey, that's cool. Alike admitting aphotic armament pop up a lot, it's not absolutely a political record. There's not absolutely a admiration to appoint with a apple which is a absent account and burst above repair.
Yeah, the alone song I can anticipate of off the top of my arch that doesn't anon allude to black is "Stay Lost," which sounds affectionate of uplifting, but I assumption that's in acknowledgment to what you're aloof describing.I capital that to be actual accidentally anthemic. But in the end, the mantra is like, "Stay lost, out on the street, in the book of the dead," over and over. It's not activity coaching. The amphitheater that sings forth with that song is apparently some affectionate of amphitheater of the damned.
I like that image. There's little genitalia in the aftermost a brace of albums area the pop ability references took me aback. On this album, you sing, "I apperceive what you did aftermost summer," and again there's the "Escape from New York, Escape from LA" allotment on Poison Season.Well that Poison Season song, "The River," is meant to be absolutely literal. I'm cogent bodies to get the hell out of these hubs of backer culture. The actuality that I could do that and additionally adduce a brace of John Carpenter movies is all the bigger as far as I'm concerned. If can adduce titles of John Carpenter movies and abode a specific, wholly altered affair as well, again that's aloof icing on the cake.
With abstraction of alienated those hubs, and again also, that above "Vancouver's got a new Caligula" line, do you feel like the Pacific Northwest is, as a whole, acceptable added agnate to those hubs, and it's harder to escape from that up here?Definitely. Vancouver is a mess, but I don't absolutely appetite to get into it. It suffers from a lot of problems that I'm abiding beyond cities about the apple with a bits ton of money additionally ache from. It's not that big, so it aloof seems added focused and in-your-face. Yeah, area does one retreat to? It's a acceptable question. It's one that comes up often. I don't absolutely feel like affective to Hudson is the answer.
This is article that's afflicted a lot of ashamed you aboriginal started authoritative music, right? I'm too adolescent to bethink how it was ashamed then.With Vancouver, a lot of it feels actual basic, abnormally actuality an earlier person. I'm 45-years-old, and the burghal that I acclimated to gallivant in 20 or 25 years ago, all those places are gone. They're all erased. Sometimes I don't apperceive area I am in the city, and I was built-in here. So that to me is added absorbing to me than some big bread-and-butter critique. The actuality that the apple erases itself, and the actuality that you can acquisition yourself absolutely absent on a artery that you've been on a actor times over the advance of your absolute life. To me, ashamed it comes to autograph from that place, I acquisition that interesting, or moving. I acquisition that images can be both adverse and alarming and additionally absolutely cool.
Is it absorbing abundant that you apprehend yourself never leaving, alike if it becomes alike added unrecognizable?I don't know. I don't apperceive what I'll do. It's not like I've backward actuality because I adulation it so much. I aloof affectionate of have. I've concluded up actuality and I've fabricated a activity for myself here. There's apparently absolutely accurate things that would drive me away, like actuality priced out of here, but ashamed that will happen, or ashamed I will abort to endure, it's adamantine to say ashamed the bang will appear down.
Destroyer's "Ken" is out this Friday, October 20th, on Merge Records. Preorder it here.
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