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Over the accomplished year, NBC News‘ Katy Tur has larboard an enduring mark on the Phish community. Aback her activity as the go-to, on-the-road contributor accoutrement the Trump attack came to an end in backward 2016, Tur confused into the role of anchor, captivation bottomward her actual own hour anniversary afternoon on MSNBC, which she promptly started bushing with tongue-in-cheek references to Phish lyrics. The fun quotes, presented as a array of central joke, bound fabricated their way about the internet and angry Tur into one of the best arresting accessible Phish admirers in the community.
["713.92"]215 best Music is Always Good images on Pinterest | Christian ... | live like you re loved lyricsWith the absolution of her book Unbelievable: My Front-Row Seat to the Craziest Attack in American History, Tur capacity her months on the alley accoutrement over five-hundred Trump rallies on the way to Donald Trump’s absurd election. The book additionally describes how actuality a exact punching bag for Trump and his supporters led her to balance her adulation of Phish. Recently, our own Gideon Plotnicki batten with Tur about Unbelievable, her on-air agreeable references, her admired appearance from this summer’s Baker’s Dozen address at Madison Square Garden, and a array of added Phish-related topics. See beneath for the annual in full, and accumulate watching MSNBC Alive with Katy Tur at 2:00 PM!
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Live For Alive Music: In your book, you accomplish advertence to axis on a Phish song aback you get on the even to appear aback from the Trump campaign. It alludes to the actuality that, afterwards such a continued journey, that it affectionate of led you to re-discover the adulation for Phish that you had in college. Would you say that’s a fair assessment? Was there article about that specific timing in your activity that pushed your adulation of Phish to the forefront?
Katy Tur: It’s absolutely a fair account. At the end of the campaign, in the press, we were accepting screamed at and accepting discharge on and alleged liars. Bodies would absolutely airing up to the columnist pen and stick up their average fingers at us, or they would say arrogant or inappropriate things, or they would yell, “You’ve gotta put on added architecture because you’re ugly!” I mean, aloof abominable things. I acquainted like the apple was a absolutely abundant place, and I wasn’t award the accustomed little joys in things that I acclimated to.
Not to complete hippie-dippy, but I anticipation aback to actuality seventeen and sitting on a beach—I anticipate I was in Fiji with my parents who were accoutrement the Mier Amplitude Shuttle that was re-entering the atmosphere. At that point, I was heavily into Phish. I bethink alert to Billy Breathes and thinking, “What a abundant soundtrack to life.” I mean, it was beautiful—the breadth was beautiful, I’m abounding of hope, I’m a jailbait and haven’t been baffled bottomward by activity absolutely yet. I additionally would accept to Billy Breathes in my car as I was active about Los Angeles—I aloof anticipation it was a absolutely admirable anthology to attending at the apple with.
So, aback I’m sitting in the columnist pen, and Backstreet Boys—not that I don’t like Backstreet Boys—but Backstreet Boys is actuality played on bend at 95 decibels, I’m accident my mind—my fingers are clenched, I’m gritting my teeth, I’m bristles hundred canicule into the campaign, I alive out of a suitcase. I aloof racked my academician to acquisition a way to calm myself down. And I was attractive through my phone, and I anticipation “I’ll accept to Billy Breathes again. It’ll air-conditioned me off.” So, I re-downloaded the album, and I ashore my earphones as abysmal as they went into my ears, and I would comedy that anthology at eleven. Suddenly, the amphitheatre that I would be in—the Trump rally—would be transformed, and I would airing about in what acquainted like a actual altered space. It affectionate of got me through the end of the campaign. It’s silly, but it helped me relax and helped me re-center myself, I guess.
L4LM: You’re actual arresting and accept let your adulation of the bandage become allotment of your accessible persona. Are there any added bodies at NBC or in the account apple that are additionally Phish fans?
KT: Yeah, it’s so crazy. I tweeted article about Phish, and I got bound accustomed into a accumulation of Phish fan journalists in New York City—there’s a whole listserv amid us and we’re consistently sending alive concerts, alive recordings, articles, or rumors about accessible shows to anniversary other. There’s additionally a agglomeration of added phans at NBC, but they’re all abaft the scenes and not on-air people. You would admit Jake Sherman from Politico—he’s consistently on my show. Steve Lacy, the ballast of Fox 5 in New York City at 10:00 PM. Robert Costa from the Washington Post—he’s actual ardent and serious, but he’s absolutely a huge Phish fan. There are a few others: The editor of Gothamist, Jen Carlson. They’re out there!
["465.6"]Live like you're Loved by Mark Schultz - YouTube | live like you re loved lyricsL4LM: We’ll accept to alpha account all of their accessories and watching all of their account pieces for Phish references!
KT: Exactly! We’re aggravating to accomplish Kasie Hunt actuality at MSNBC into a fan because she has a new appearance on Sundays alleged “Kasie D.C.”, and I accept absitively to name it “Kasie/D.C. Bag”.
L4LM: This Phish arena is actual niche, so your accessible persona makes you into somewhat of a celebrity aural the scene. Outside of the Phish scene, you’re on television and apparent by millions of bodies every day. Is there a aberration in your celebrity in the accustomed account apple against the Phish world, and is there being that you like or don’t like about either?
KT: Well, I will booty affair with the diction of it. I don’t anticipate journalists are celebrities. If bodies apperceive and are accustomed with my work, I’m air-conditioned blessed about it. Aback bodies stop me on the street, they will advertence either my book or article I did on the attack aisle or on my show, and I anticipate that is awesome. That agency they’re advantageous absorption to the advertisement and they’re affianced in the political dialogue, and that is wonderful. Aback I’m at a Phish concert and the aforementioned affair happens, I’m additionally absolutely excited, although I’m absolutely abashed by it! I cannot accept that so abounding Phish admirers are big MSNBC viewers.
L4LM: Maybe it shouldn’t abruptness you that abounding Phish admirers are bleeding-heart liberals.
KT: I wouldn’t allocate all MSNBC admirers as bleeding-heart liberals, I would be at Trump rallies, and bodies would appear up to me and say, “Oh, I saw you on TV with Chris Matthews. You know, we absolutely like you, and we apperceive you absolutely adulation Trump!” A lot of bodies in the Trump administering absolutely secretly adulation Rachel Maddow. Rachel is so smart. She makes her credibility in a actual anxious way, and she’s never calling anyone names—it’s adamantine to not like her.
L4LM: Activity aback to the actual aboriginal time you included Phish references in your show, was this article you let your producers apperceive was activity to happen? Did it appear on the fly?
KT: I anticipate the aboriginal time—and I ability be muddying the amnion in my academician because I accept a boxy time canonizing what I had for cafeteria on a circadian basis—I had apparent that Jake Sherman was a Phish fan. Jake was on my show, and all of a sudden, as I was casting to him, it popped into my arch to say, “’My Friend, My Friend’, Jake Sherman,” and you can see on his face that he’s aggravating adamantine to accommodate himself. And again he came aback with “Bouncing About The Room,” I think, and that was how it was born.
Or, it could’ve been aback we acclimated to accept to do these actual asinine eyewitness acclamation on my hour. There would be questions on all sorts of topics, and there was one day area the catechism was about legalizing Marijuana, either in Colorado or potentially nationally, and I saw it as a acceptable befalling to [laughs] bury some Phish lyrics—for affidavit that cipher can understand. I don’t bethink what the calligraphy absolutely said, but there was “run like an antelope out of control”—there was a agglomeration of being in there. I was new to anchoring, and one of my administration alleged my controlling ambassador and said, “Wow! Katy is absolutely accepting a lot of fun with this today.” He had no abstraction what I was talking about, but he admired my enthusiasm!
["1862.4"]Hawk Nelson - Live Like You're Loved (Official Lyric Video) - YouTube | live like you re loved lyricsL4LM: There was a quick acknowledgment to your Phish references from the internet, as able-bodied as from Alive For Alive Music and added blogs and publications that awning Phish and jam bands and alive music. You absitively to abide including references in your show; did you let your producers in on what was activity on in agreement of the acknowledgment you were getting? Clearly, already Meet The Columnist started tweeting about your references, at some point NBC had to accept been clued in.
KT: Yeah, unfortunately, I anticipate they were a little too blast on the adenoids with that. I was like, “No! C’mon! It’s subtle, you can’t aloof acquaint everyone!”
L4LM: If Meet The Columnist is tweeting about it, the bluff may accept been jumped, so to speak.
KT: I anticipate a few bodies said that aback that went out, and I was like, “Oh no, I gotta cull back!” My producers absolutely bent on—it was adamantine not to because I would aloof say these absolutely accidental things that seemed so out of larboard field. In the end, they were on lath with it and anticipation it was funny. They mostly formed their eyes. I don’t accept addition Phish fan on my staff—I’m alive to catechumen them but so far I haven’t had any takers. They’re air-conditioned with it, MSNBC is absolutely air-conditioned with it, too. A brace of guys in the business administration are big Phish fans, and they cut a promo of me bottomward Phish lyrics and put it online saying, “This is how we Phish for stories” or something. The video begin its way to the band, and apparently, the bandage was watching all of the lyrics bead while they were backstage for the Baker’s Dozen—they got a bang out of it, I’m told.
L4LM: I wouldn’t be abashed to see you end up interviewing Phish at some point soon.
Katy Tur: Oh please, that’d be my dream appear true! I would die. I would accept to accomplish abiding Jake Sherman could demonstration on it with me so we could tag-team it.
L4LM: If you can get the Trump interview, I anticipate you can get the Trey interview.
KT: I feel like the Trey annual is abundant added difficult, but I would try.
L4LM: Everyone is consistently apprehensive about people’s stats—how abounding shows they’ve been to, what’s their favorite, etc. So, I accept a brace of altered questions about that. Aboriginal of all, aback was your aboriginal show?
["228.92"]Hawk Nelson - Live Like You're Loved - (with lyrics) (2015 ... | live like you re loved lyricsKT: Valentine’s Day 2003—it was at The Forum in Los Angeles. I went with my academy boyfriend, and it was the best fun I had anytime had in my life. And again they went on hiatus, and they alone me! So I went to a agglomeration of Trey concerts aback he was touring, including one at The Greek Theatre. And then, you know, I fell out of blow because Phish was gone for so long, and I confused to New York and got into news. Account affectionate of took me abroad from Phish. We’re such dorks in this business—we’re not air-conditioned dorks, we’re approved dorks—so I absent blow with Phish. They would appear to New York for New Year’s Eve, and I would beam longingly at Ticketmaster, but again I was like, “No one’s activity to go with me.” None of my accompany would go!
L4LM: I don’t anticipate you’d accept that botheration anymore!
KT: Accept to this! So I had one vacation over the summer, and it was on Cape Cod. I was continuing on the beach, and my fiancĂ© and his two kids were architecture a behemothic sandcastle and a big moat about the sandcastle. There’s article about captivation a advertise and digging a aperture on a bank that attracts added fathers, and so these added dads kept advancing up and talking. Somehow, one of the dads mentioned Phish, and we became accompany aloof because he was a big Phish fan. We concluded up activity to a agglomeration of Phish shows calm during the Baker’s Dozen. So, it all formed out well!
L4LM: What was the aboriginal appearance you abounding afterwards re-discovering the band?
KT: Holes and Boston Cream nights during the Baker’s Dozen were my aboriginal two shows back. Boston Cream was awesome.
L4LM: Moving on, what is your admired Phish song?
KT: I adulation “Divided Sky,” although I’ve never apparent them comedy it live. I accurately adulation versions area they accommodate allotment of the All In The Family theme.
L4LM: What’s your admired jam or appearance to accept aback to?
KT: I absolutely enjoyed alert aback to all of the Baker’s Dozen shows this summer, accurately Boston Cream, I’ve listened aback to that a few times. My go-to is the Hampton Comes Alive box set. It’s abounding with really, absolutely abundant versions of abounding of their songs. It has an alarming “The Mango Song”—I adulation that song.
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KT: For my absolute fantasy to be fulfilled, I appetite to see Gamehenge. Aback they comedy their aftermost appearance ever, they accept to comedy Gamehenge in its entirety.
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